1 00:00:05,269 --> 00:00:01,189 thirty dollar activation fee 2 00:00:08,390 --> 00:00:05,279 restrictions apply welcome to UFO 3 00:00:13,999 --> 00:00:08,400 headline news with me Heidi Hollis today 4 00:00:18,710 --> 00:00:14,009 is Thursday November 30th 2017 blasting 5 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:18,720 off with some UFO reports a UFO sighting 6 00:00:27,650 --> 00:00:23,570 in Maricopa Arizona on November 25th 7 00:00:31,580 --> 00:00:27,660 2017 the witness states it was a bright 8 00:00:33,950 --> 00:00:31,590 light moving in an atypical way and goes 9 00:00:38,959 --> 00:00:33,960 on to say sitting inside our house 10 00:00:42,410 --> 00:00:38,969 watching TV around 9:15 p.m. my dog went 11 00:00:45,350 --> 00:00:42,420 berserk not an alert bark I've heard 12 00:00:48,410 --> 00:00:45,360 those before so I got up and went to 13 00:00:51,770 --> 00:00:48,420 check with the camping lantern I stepped 14 00:00:55,670 --> 00:00:51,780 out onto the porch and noticed a very 15 00:00:58,340 --> 00:00:55,680 bright light we see a lot of planes and 16 00:01:00,410 --> 00:00:58,350 flares over the bombing range so I'm 17 00:01:03,290 --> 00:01:00,420 used to seeing various lights in the sky 18 00:01:05,450 --> 00:01:03,300 I first thought it might have been the 19 00:01:06,700 --> 00:01:05,460 front lights on a plane or searchlights 20 00:01:10,310 --> 00:01:06,710 for a Border Patrol 21 00:01:13,929 --> 00:01:10,320 however this light was larger than 22 00:01:17,810 --> 00:01:13,939 average and very bright white it 23 00:01:22,429 --> 00:01:17,820 pulsated once making it a bit larger and 24 00:01:26,030 --> 00:01:22,439 shift into a more blue white color it 25 00:01:30,050 --> 00:01:26,040 then shot upward arcing slightly 26 00:01:33,679 --> 00:01:30,060 northward as it did so it disappeared 27 00:01:37,969 --> 00:01:33,689 within seconds given me just enough time 28 00:01:41,030 --> 00:01:37,979 to realize how I am normal it was within 29 00:01:44,270 --> 00:01:41,040 minutes the sky had a lot of planes in 30 00:01:46,719 --> 00:01:44,280 the area almost all were extremely high 31 00:01:49,789 --> 00:01:46,729 but we could see the blinking lights 32 00:01:52,130 --> 00:01:49,799 they arrived after the incident and 33 00:01:54,999 --> 00:01:52,140 before we decided to return into the 34 00:01:57,740 --> 00:01:55,009 house so within three minutes 35 00:01:59,810 --> 00:01:57,750 we went back into the house and within 36 00:02:03,319 --> 00:01:59,820 the next 10 minutes a sounded like an 37 00:02:08,169 --> 00:02:03,329 entire squad of large helicopters were 38 00:02:12,020 --> 00:02:08,179 flying in the area perhaps a coincidence 39 00:02:15,559 --> 00:02:12,030 our next sighting UFO sighting in 40 00:02:19,849 --> 00:02:15,569 Saginaw Michigan occurring on November 41 00:02:24,379 --> 00:02:19,859 24th 2017 came in from the Northeast 42 00:02:28,190 --> 00:02:24,389 passed over my head made two separate 45 43 00:02:32,449 --> 00:02:28,200 degree turns lost sight as it headed 44 00:02:35,420 --> 00:02:32,459 southeast the witness continues I woke 45 00:02:38,479 --> 00:02:35,430 up at 4:11 a.m. and I heard noises 46 00:02:40,580 --> 00:02:38,489 outside I went out to find it was my 47 00:02:44,030 --> 00:02:40,590 neighbor working on the interior of his 48 00:02:46,789 --> 00:02:44,040 home as I was heading back in I looked 49 00:02:51,349 --> 00:02:46,799 up and noticed how clear and bright the 50 00:02:54,050 --> 00:02:51,359 sky was with no clouds that's when I 51 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:54,060 noticed a light approaching from the 52 00:02:57,559 --> 00:02:54,810 Northeast 53 00:03:01,009 --> 00:02:57,569 my first thought were that it was a 54 00:03:03,920 --> 00:03:01,019 shooting star but it was too slow for 55 00:03:05,709 --> 00:03:03,930 that and too fast for any satellite or 56 00:03:08,990 --> 00:03:05,719 aircraft that I know of 57 00:03:12,379 --> 00:03:09,000 it was too high and covered too many 58 00:03:16,039 --> 00:03:12,389 miles to be any kind of drone as it 59 00:03:19,369 --> 00:03:16,049 passed over my head it made roughly a 45 60 00:03:24,409 --> 00:03:19,379 degree angle turn then straight for a 61 00:03:27,920 --> 00:03:24,419 second - and then another 45-degree 62 00:03:31,580 --> 00:03:27,930 angle turn and straight again heading 63 00:03:34,610 --> 00:03:31,590 southeast never changing speed until I 64 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:34,620 lost sight of it which was behind the 65 00:03:42,349 --> 00:03:38,810 streetlight glare from across the street 66 00:03:45,170 --> 00:03:42,359 as the object passed over I could see 67 00:03:49,490 --> 00:03:45,180 that it appeared to be self illuminated 68 00:03:52,309 --> 00:03:49,500 with a very dim blue white glow like a 69 00:03:56,449 --> 00:03:52,319 little watt light bulb with black paint 70 00:04:00,050 --> 00:03:56,459 covering half letting out only patches 71 00:04:04,279 --> 00:04:00,060 of light there were no other lights on 72 00:04:06,979 --> 00:04:04,289 it if it had been settling still you 73 00:04:11,330 --> 00:04:06,989 would never have noticed it even in the 74 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:11,340 city at 4:00 a.m. it was very quiet and 75 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:15,810 this object was completely silent it was 76 00:04:21,850 --> 00:04:18,570 hard to tell how high it was maybe a 77 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:21,860 thousand feet or more or the shape of it 78 00:04:28,570 --> 00:04:25,410 the duration of the sighting was very 79 00:04:31,070 --> 00:04:28,580 brief no longer than 20 seconds I 80 00:04:33,110 --> 00:04:31,080 believe it was under intelligent control 81 00:04:37,550 --> 00:04:33,120 because of the sharp turns 82 00:04:38,180 --> 00:04:37,560 I remember waving and yelling for it to 83 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:38,190 stop 84 00:04:46,700 --> 00:04:43,130 I've had many planes and helicopters 85 00:04:51,650 --> 00:04:46,710 including military aircraft pass over my 86 00:04:57,170 --> 00:04:51,660 home heading to and from BS Airport this 87 00:04:59,750 --> 00:04:57,180 object was completely different it was 88 00:05:02,810 --> 00:04:59,760 Black Friday morning so I thought maybe 89 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:02,820 it was a spotlight but it never happened 90 00:05:06,890 --> 00:05:03,330 again 91 00:05:10,100 --> 00:05:06,900 there was no beam there was nothing for 92 00:05:13,130 --> 00:05:10,110 a spotlight to reflect off from I've 93 00:05:16,280 --> 00:05:13,140 lived at this location for over 40 years 94 00:05:20,510 --> 00:05:16,290 and this is not the only sighting I've 95 00:05:24,650 --> 00:05:20,520 had this is the only one that I have 96 00:05:28,130 --> 00:05:24,660 reported the subject of UFOs has always 97 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:28,140 been of great interest to me since a 98 00:05:35,590 --> 00:05:30,930 sighting as a young child another in my 99 00:05:38,840 --> 00:05:35,600 early 30s then mid 40s and now this one 100 00:05:42,230 --> 00:05:38,850 because of my interest in open mind I've 101 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:42,240 had many people friends and family tell 102 00:05:47,930 --> 00:05:45,450 me of their experiences one recently by 103 00:05:52,460 --> 00:05:47,940 a close friend living just outside of 104 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:52,470 the Saginaw area PS if any official 105 00:05:56,570 --> 00:05:54,210 member of MUFON would like more 106 00:06:02,719 --> 00:05:56,580 information please feel free to contact 107 00:06:07,779 --> 00:06:02,729 me our next UFO sighting happened in 108 00:06:14,029 --> 00:06:07,789 Gainesville Florida on November 23rd 109 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:14,039 2017 UFO hovering over treetops the 110 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:17,010 witness goes on to say I was kidding in 111 00:06:22,370 --> 00:06:19,289 the car with two of my friends to get 112 00:06:25,250 --> 00:06:22,380 lunch and that's when we heard a 113 00:06:28,130 --> 00:06:25,260 helicopter we thought it was the 114 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:28,140 hospital's helicopter at first but we 115 00:06:33,270 --> 00:06:31,250 spotted it and we knew that it wasn't 116 00:06:36,300 --> 00:06:33,280 because it 117 00:06:39,300 --> 00:06:36,310 was all-black the hospital helicopters 118 00:06:42,540 --> 00:06:39,310 are orange and blue here we were trying 119 00:06:46,170 --> 00:06:42,550 to spot another helicopter and we saw a 120 00:06:49,409 --> 00:06:46,180 plane it looked as if it was just a 121 00:06:52,530 --> 00:06:49,419 commercial flight however then we 122 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:52,540 noticed the UFO hovering right above the 123 00:06:59,310 --> 00:06:55,930 treetops and we knew something was wrong 124 00:07:02,340 --> 00:06:59,320 I took a photo but one of my friends 125 00:07:05,010 --> 00:07:02,350 have a video I told him about this site 126 00:07:08,820 --> 00:07:05,020 and he said he would upload the report 127 00:07:12,050 --> 00:07:08,830 as well as the video anywho the UFO 128 00:07:15,180 --> 00:07:12,060 hovered for about 15 minutes and then 129 00:07:19,890 --> 00:07:15,190 very abruptly descended below the 130 00:07:23,070 --> 00:07:19,900 treetops and out of our sight my friends 131 00:07:26,630 --> 00:07:23,080 thought it was cool but I am scared to 132 00:07:30,500 --> 00:07:26,640 know that there are aliens out there 133 00:07:33,420 --> 00:07:30,510 especially ones near me and my neighbors 134 00:07:35,670 --> 00:07:33,430 judging by the direction it was probably 135 00:07:38,850 --> 00:07:35,680 hovering over the nearby elementary 136 00:07:40,950 --> 00:07:38,860 school as weird as that sounds in the 137 00:07:43,980 --> 00:07:40,960 picture that's been attached to this 138 00:07:49,590 --> 00:07:43,990 story I have cropped and zoomed in so 139 00:07:54,390 --> 00:07:49,600 that you can see it better next a blast 140 00:07:57,870 --> 00:07:54,400 from the UFO past UFO sighting black 141 00:08:05,250 --> 00:07:57,880 triangle sighting occurred San Diego 142 00:08:08,909 --> 00:08:05,260 California October 28th 1976 on board 143 00:08:11,580 --> 00:08:08,919 USS Racine in route to Hawaii in the 144 00:08:14,909 --> 00:08:11,590 Pacific two days out from San Diego 145 00:08:20,670 --> 00:08:14,919 while on watch on the stern of the ship 146 00:08:23,810 --> 00:08:20,680 I observed a UFO the witness goes on to 147 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:23,820 say while in the Navy on board the USS 148 00:08:33,380 --> 00:08:30,130 Racine first 1191 I observed a very 149 00:08:36,420 --> 00:08:33,390 strange object while on watch at night 150 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:36,430 we had left San Diego on our Westpac 151 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:41,530 tour on October 26 1976 according to the 152 00:08:46,820 --> 00:08:44,250 itinerary in my ship's crews book 153 00:08:49,450 --> 00:08:46,830 it was two days out from when we left so 154 00:08:54,050 --> 00:08:49,460 I believe that date was October 28th 155 00:08:58,600 --> 00:08:54,060 1976 our ship had departed alone without 156 00:09:01,520 --> 00:08:58,610 the convoy due to mechanical repairs I 157 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:01,530 was on the Night Watch on the rear of 158 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:04,410 the ship station to report any objects 159 00:09:11,030 --> 00:09:07,290 or contacts to the bridge over the 160 00:09:13,730 --> 00:09:11,040 headphone set it was late at night dark 161 00:09:16,790 --> 00:09:13,740 and there were no lights or objects to 162 00:09:19,670 --> 00:09:16,800 report to the bridge all I could see 163 00:09:24,050 --> 00:09:19,680 were the stars the horizon over the dark 164 00:09:28,370 --> 00:09:24,060 sea and the foam of the ships awake no 165 00:09:31,430 --> 00:09:28,380 reportable context then I heard over the 166 00:09:35,590 --> 00:09:31,440 headset other crew members talking about 167 00:09:38,660 --> 00:09:35,600 something I looked around and saw a 168 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:38,670 triangular object directly behind the 169 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:42,810 ship it was about a half-mile away 170 00:09:49,730 --> 00:09:46,170 and appeared to be hovering just above 171 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:49,740 the water it was glowing and yellowish 172 00:09:53,890 --> 00:09:52,530 orangish color and appeared to be very 173 00:09:56,570 --> 00:09:53,900 large 174 00:10:00,710 --> 00:09:56,580 everyone was chattering on the headset 175 00:10:04,820 --> 00:10:00,720 and I heard someone say it looks like a 176 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:04,830 Christmas tree the chattering continued 177 00:10:13,190 --> 00:10:08,010 until I heard someone say shut up 178 00:10:17,510 --> 00:10:13,200 I then reported a contact bearing 180 179 00:10:22,070 --> 00:10:17,520 degrees approximately 1/2 mile to the 180 00:10:24,350 --> 00:10:22,080 bridge there was no reply the object 181 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:24,360 continued to maintain its position for 182 00:10:30,860 --> 00:10:27,810 about 3 to 4 minutes then I observed the 183 00:10:33,770 --> 00:10:30,870 object slowly getting smaller in size as 184 00:10:37,610 --> 00:10:33,780 if it moved directly away from us at a 185 00:10:39,590 --> 00:10:37,620 high speed until it disappeared there 186 00:10:42,290 --> 00:10:39,600 was very little talk on the headphones 187 00:10:46,250 --> 00:10:42,300 after that and after a short while 188 00:10:49,490 --> 00:10:46,260 another shipmate came to relieve me it 189 00:10:52,610 --> 00:10:49,500 was a rotating 45-minute watch so my 190 00:10:55,220 --> 00:10:52,620 next station was port after steering 191 00:10:56,590 --> 00:10:55,230 compartment then I was on the port 192 00:11:00,030 --> 00:10:56,600 lookout on the 193 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:00,040 and then on the helm the steering well 194 00:11:06,850 --> 00:11:03,530 while on the helm the door behind me 195 00:11:09,940 --> 00:11:06,860 opened and I saw a radar technician I 196 00:11:11,470 --> 00:11:09,950 knew I asked him about what I had seen 197 00:11:15,700 --> 00:11:11,480 and he said there was nothing on the 198 00:11:17,560 --> 00:11:15,710 radar screen my watch finally ended 199 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:17,570 without much conversation with others 200 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:20,810 about what we all saw there had to have 201 00:11:29,230 --> 00:11:24,050 been at least 10 or more sailors and 202 00:11:32,110 --> 00:11:29,240 officers that saw what I saw the next 203 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:32,120 day after saluting an officer I knew I 204 00:11:37,870 --> 00:11:34,850 asked him what it was that we saw last 205 00:11:41,290 --> 00:11:37,880 night on watch he then turned to me and 206 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:41,300 said you didn't see anything and that's 207 00:11:48,580 --> 00:11:46,010 the last I want to hear about it there 208 00:11:51,850 --> 00:11:48,590 was never much talk about that incident 209 00:11:56,110 --> 00:11:51,860 after that and the rest of the westpac 210 00:11:59,200 --> 00:11:56,120 was fairly uneventful after all these 211 00:12:02,620 --> 00:11:59,210 years I can still remember that what I 212 00:12:05,590 --> 00:12:02,630 saw was the most unexplainable thing I 213 00:12:08,950 --> 00:12:05,600 have ever witnessed I think I have 214 00:12:11,740 --> 00:12:08,960 reported to this MUFON group several 215 00:12:16,030 --> 00:12:11,750 years ago but it was a different format 216 00:12:18,730 --> 00:12:16,040 with less information in my ship's crews 217 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:18,740 book I think I can identify other crew 218 00:12:25,030 --> 00:12:21,050 members who may have been on watch that 219 00:12:28,210 --> 00:12:25,040 night I have told my story to my family 220 00:12:31,350 --> 00:12:28,220 members and others I know what I saw and 221 00:12:35,910 --> 00:12:31,360 it was very strange 222 00:12:38,710 --> 00:12:35,920 now DAB's into some mystery science a 223 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:38,720 special treat on this date for those of 224 00:12:45,510 --> 00:12:41,330 you not familiar with one of Australia's 225 00:12:50,830 --> 00:12:45,520 most notorious UFO sightings on the 226 00:12:53,530 --> 00:12:50,840 morning of April the 6th 1966 the 227 00:12:56,740 --> 00:12:53,540 Australian city of Melbourne was visited 228 00:13:00,910 --> 00:12:56,750 by an unknown or at least unfamiliar 229 00:13:03,940 --> 00:13:00,920 object or objects the then outer suburb 230 00:13:07,030 --> 00:13:03,950 of West all was apparently a sort of 231 00:13:09,730 --> 00:13:07,040 ground zero for the aerial oddities 232 00:13:10,370 --> 00:13:09,740 where it made an approach to the ground 233 00:13:14,150 --> 00:13:10,380 or 234 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:14,160 actually landed much has been made of 235 00:13:20,690 --> 00:13:17,850 the West all UFO incident and here is 236 00:13:25,690 --> 00:13:20,700 not the place to rerun the generally 237 00:13:28,340 --> 00:13:25,700 accepted narrative others be they 238 00:13:30,950 --> 00:13:28,350 documentary makers journalists authors 239 00:13:33,950 --> 00:13:30,960 or researchers have produced many a 240 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:33,960 treatment on the case already at the 241 00:13:38,870 --> 00:13:36,450 core of the event a large number of 242 00:13:41,390 --> 00:13:38,880 schoolchildren from the West all high 243 00:13:45,140 --> 00:13:41,400 school claimed to have personally 244 00:13:47,500 --> 00:13:45,150 witnessed the airborne episode and their 245 00:13:50,980 --> 00:13:47,510 modern-day testimony has been given a 246 00:13:53,810 --> 00:13:50,990 considerable quantity of recent exposure 247 00:13:56,780 --> 00:13:53,820 one aspect of the incident which has 248 00:13:59,840 --> 00:13:56,790 been insufficiently explored is that the 249 00:14:02,060 --> 00:13:59,850 staff who worked at the school other 250 00:14:04,670 --> 00:14:02,070 than the science teacher Andrew 251 00:14:08,060 --> 00:14:04,680 Greenwood we have heard very little 252 00:14:10,220 --> 00:14:08,070 either then or now from the teachers who 253 00:14:15,410 --> 00:14:10,230 were there on the day and caught up in 254 00:14:16,870 --> 00:14:15,420 the unusual saga recently the writer had 255 00:14:19,550 --> 00:14:16,880 the opportunity to exchange 256 00:14:22,340 --> 00:14:19,560 communications with a former English and 257 00:14:25,490 --> 00:14:22,350 mathematics teacher who is staffed at 258 00:14:30,730 --> 00:14:25,500 West all high school a now successful 259 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:30,740 author hazel moi now hazel Edwards 260 00:14:35,270 --> 00:14:33,330 offers opinions which are quite 261 00:14:37,820 --> 00:14:35,280 different than the general version of 262 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:37,830 high school yo falada chol narrative 263 00:14:43,580 --> 00:14:41,250 found elsewhere simply put most but 264 00:14:45,730 --> 00:14:43,590 certainly not all of what I have 265 00:14:48,830 --> 00:14:45,740 personally read about West Hall has been 266 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:48,840 reactionary or has been presented in 267 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:51,570 tabloid magazines rushed newspaper 268 00:14:58,100 --> 00:14:54,090 articles short sound bites and so forth 269 00:15:01,550 --> 00:14:58,110 in conversing with hazel the writer 270 00:15:03,950 --> 00:15:01,560 states not only got to hear from a 271 00:15:05,300 --> 00:15:03,960 teacher but got to this holiday season 272 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:05,310 make the smart choice and switch to 273 00:15:09,530 --> 00:15:07,290 sprint and get a new Samsung Galaxy s8 274 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:09,540 ur si plus 50% off your lease that's 275 00:15:14,390 --> 00:15:12,210 right 50% off the GS 8 or GS 8 plus one 276 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:14,400 of Samsung's hottest devices plus with 277 00:15:17,180 --> 00:15:15,690 galaxy forever you can upgrade to the 278 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:17,190 latest galaxy anytime after 12 lease 279 00:15:19,530 --> 00:15:18,010 payments 280 00:15:20,970 --> 00:15:19,540 visit your local Sprint store sprint 281 00:15:23,730 --> 00:15:20,980 comm slash holiday deals are called 282 00:15:25,290 --> 00:15:23,740 1-800 sprint one today requires 18 month 283 00:15:26,760 --> 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00:16:05,230 contacted her via social media and 298 00:16:14,190 --> 00:16:09,610 Facebook these initial contacts were on 299 00:16:17,940 --> 00:16:14,200 the 25th of August 2016 the writer goes 300 00:16:21,510 --> 00:16:17,950 on to state I introduced myself as a UFO 301 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:21,520 case researcher who wished to obtain yet 302 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:24,370 unpublished testimony from persons 303 00:16:30,510 --> 00:16:28,090 directly involved in Westall falling 304 00:16:33,900 --> 00:16:30,520 from that there was no response and I 305 00:16:37,530 --> 00:16:33,910 didn't pursue her further on the 26 of 306 00:16:39,810 --> 00:16:37,540 October 2017 hazel who I have 307 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:39,820 established was indeed an English and 308 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:42,250 mathematics teacher at West all high 309 00:16:49,470 --> 00:16:46,450 school reply to my year old message her 310 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:49,480 first communication read dear Paul I 311 00:16:55,590 --> 00:16:52,930 just found your query relating to UFOs 312 00:16:58,020 --> 00:16:55,600 and Westall I've always maintained that 313 00:17:00,600 --> 00:16:58,030 there was no UFO landing at the school 314 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:00,610 that day where I was an English and 315 00:17:06,290 --> 00:17:03,970 maths teacher two other former teachers 316 00:17:08,370 --> 00:17:06,300 agree with me the most interesting 317 00:17:11,100 --> 00:17:08,380 development from the whole episode has 318 00:17:15,060 --> 00:17:11,110 been the community's desire to have a 319 00:17:18,030 --> 00:17:15,070 common significant memory it was a new 320 00:17:20,699 --> 00:17:18,040 migrant community and the real story 321 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:20,709 lies in this success which many of these 322 00:17:28,350 --> 00:17:23,010 former students have made of their lives 323 00:17:30,370 --> 00:17:28,360 for just a few they supposed UFO was the 324 00:17:32,770 --> 00:17:30,380 only thing of significance 325 00:17:35,980 --> 00:17:32,780 but others have created many worthwhile 326 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:35,990 skills and projects these are the facts 327 00:17:42,070 --> 00:17:40,010 really the supposed site of the landing 328 00:17:45,220 --> 00:17:42,080 where the UFO playground is now situated 329 00:17:47,650 --> 00:17:45,230 is so far from the back of the original 330 00:17:50,410 --> 00:17:47,660 school the students could not have 331 00:17:53,230 --> 00:17:50,420 reached it within the break there was a 332 00:17:55,150 --> 00:17:53,240 hyped up atmosphere that day the kind 333 00:17:58,240 --> 00:17:55,160 that sometimes occurs with students 334 00:18:01,120 --> 00:17:58,250 during very windy weather mr. Sam will 335 00:18:04,510 --> 00:18:01,130 be the principal did tend to be 336 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:04,520 authoritarian but had to retain order in 337 00:18:11,260 --> 00:18:07,610 a new and raw school and was strict on 338 00:18:13,570 --> 00:18:11,270 the day one student rang the TV station 339 00:18:16,510 --> 00:18:13,580 mid-afternoon on a slow news day and 340 00:18:19,510 --> 00:18:16,520 things kind of escalated from there I've 341 00:18:23,830 --> 00:18:19,520 looked at the supposed witness accounts 342 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:23,840 and most are built on suppositions for 343 00:18:29,020 --> 00:18:26,690 example men in uniform appeared 45 344 00:18:29,580 --> 00:18:29,030 minutes after and the army base is 45 345 00:18:32,850 --> 00:18:29,590 minutes away 346 00:18:36,670 --> 00:18:32,860 therefore the army was involved not 347 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:36,680 logical of course with this I was 348 00:18:40,980 --> 00:18:38,450 somewhat surprised by such a clear 349 00:18:44,050 --> 00:18:40,990 lengthy piece of introductory testimony 350 00:18:46,750 --> 00:18:44,060 with some ado including the swapping of 351 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:46,760 emails a further appraisal of what I 352 00:18:51,930 --> 00:18:48,770 personally studied with the UFO field 353 00:18:54,820 --> 00:18:51,940 and a few early vetting inquiries I 354 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:54,830 drafted what several exploratory 355 00:19:00,550 --> 00:18:57,290 questions for her to answer as she saw 356 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:00,560 fit the first question this writer posed 357 00:19:07,210 --> 00:19:03,170 was merely what are your general 358 00:19:10,270 --> 00:19:07,220 recollections of that day's events hazel 359 00:19:13,420 --> 00:19:10,280 replied during the class time that 360 00:19:15,820 --> 00:19:13,430 afternoon the students were hyped up but 361 00:19:16,900 --> 00:19:15,830 few actually reported real evidence of 362 00:19:20,140 --> 00:19:16,910 seeing anything 363 00:19:22,270 --> 00:19:20,150 it was gossip built on hearsay it was 364 00:19:25,270 --> 00:19:22,280 the girls student who called the TV news 365 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:25,280 which said a media frenzy in place mr. 366 00:19:30,580 --> 00:19:28,010 Sam will be the principal try to quiet 367 00:19:33,430 --> 00:19:30,590 things down but he wasn't trying to 368 00:19:36,070 --> 00:19:33,440 cover up anything just keep control in a 369 00:19:38,140 --> 00:19:36,080 fairly challenging school lots of 370 00:19:41,890 --> 00:19:38,150 inexperienced staff like me in our first 371 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:41,900 year of teaching the 20 year old science 372 00:19:46,090 --> 00:19:44,210 teacher Andrew was interviewed by media 373 00:19:48,850 --> 00:19:46,100 and really liked the experience so 374 00:19:51,070 --> 00:19:48,860 stories grew because he was a science 375 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:51,080 teacher more attention was paid and 376 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:53,690 later follow-ups of the story I always 377 00:19:59,200 --> 00:19:56,690 stated the story was being exaggerated 378 00:20:01,180 --> 00:19:59,210 but my comments were always edited 379 00:20:03,509 --> 00:20:01,190 because many felt that the UFO story 380 00:20:07,450 --> 00:20:03,519 gave them a connection to media fame 381 00:20:09,970 --> 00:20:07,460 they wanted to be part of a story to 382 00:20:12,759 --> 00:20:09,980 other teachers Rodger Adams and Vivian 383 00:20:15,369 --> 00:20:12,769 Clark agreed with me a journalist asked 384 00:20:18,460 --> 00:20:15,379 me what did you do after the momentous 385 00:20:22,090 --> 00:20:18,470 event I said I left at 4 p.m. to go to 386 00:20:24,220 --> 00:20:22,100 my manoj uni lecture on politics on the 387 00:20:27,129 --> 00:20:24,230 Clayton campus as I was studying as well 388 00:20:29,139 --> 00:20:27,139 as working full-time he asked why I 389 00:20:32,350 --> 00:20:29,149 didn't stay after school when such a 390 00:20:36,070 --> 00:20:32,360 momentous event had occurred I replied 391 00:20:38,139 --> 00:20:36,080 that it didn't the flattened grass was 392 00:20:39,909 --> 00:20:38,149 part of the area where teenage students 393 00:20:42,639 --> 00:20:39,919 messed around between school and the 394 00:20:45,399 --> 00:20:42,649 migrant camp the journalists from the 395 00:20:47,529 --> 00:20:45,409 dinner Gong Journal agreed that he had 396 00:20:50,169 --> 00:20:47,539 reported what students and staff said 397 00:20:52,330 --> 00:20:50,179 but he was cynical about the little 398 00:20:55,419 --> 00:20:52,340 green men which was the level the story 399 00:20:57,909 --> 00:20:55,429 reached very quickly I did attend a 400 00:21:01,119 --> 00:20:57,919 reunion of Westall high high school 401 00:21:03,340 --> 00:21:01,129 decades later to which i was invited and 402 00:21:06,100 --> 00:21:03,350 several were being interviewed about the 403 00:21:08,529 --> 00:21:06,110 UFO on that afternoon I thoroughly 404 00:21:10,450 --> 00:21:08,539 enjoyed my time teaching at West all and 405 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:10,460 put a lot of effort into my students I 406 00:21:16,629 --> 00:21:13,369 was pleased to see how well some had 407 00:21:19,539 --> 00:21:16,639 done but I was also intrigued by a few 408 00:21:22,509 --> 00:21:19,549 of those now adults who wanted the UFO 409 00:21:26,230 --> 00:21:22,519 story to be fact because it gave them 410 00:21:28,989 --> 00:21:26,240 kudos my belief is that the real story 411 00:21:31,659 --> 00:21:28,999 is the success of a migrant community 412 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:31,669 and their desire for a common history 413 00:21:37,539 --> 00:21:34,369 and the reactions to the UFO story as 414 00:21:40,029 --> 00:21:37,549 part of that I also attended the opening 415 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:40,039 of the UFO playground funded by Kingston 416 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:43,690 Council and an excellent playground 417 00:21:50,710 --> 00:21:46,850 where one of my former students asked me 418 00:21:53,980 --> 00:21:50,720 to keep quiet about my UFO calms because 419 00:21:56,470 --> 00:21:53,990 she stated it's my only chance to be 420 00:21:57,529 --> 00:21:56,480 famous and you're not going to take that 421 00:22:00,440 --> 00:21:57,539 away from me 422 00:22:03,169 --> 00:22:00,450 as a professional writer of fiction I 423 00:22:05,539 --> 00:22:03,179 was asked by the documentary maker not 424 00:22:07,009 --> 00:22:05,549 to write about the subject as he wished 425 00:22:09,499 --> 00:22:07,019 to do so himself 426 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:09,509 I think it's possible there was some 427 00:22:15,889 --> 00:22:12,210 type of flying object which went across 428 00:22:19,279 --> 00:22:15,899 the area but it didn't land the second 429 00:22:21,590 --> 00:22:19,289 question I posed was when specifically 430 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:21,600 did the alleged flying saucer incident 431 00:22:28,849 --> 00:22:23,570 come to your attention 432 00:22:30,859 --> 00:22:28,859 Hazel's reply was just after lunch I had 433 00:22:33,469 --> 00:22:30,869 an English class who were a fairly hyped 434 00:22:35,659 --> 00:22:33,479 up usually I had a good relationship 435 00:22:37,940 --> 00:22:35,669 with my students but they couldn't 436 00:22:40,969 --> 00:22:37,950 settle several were talking about 437 00:22:44,450 --> 00:22:40,979 something seen from the oval only later 438 00:22:47,149 --> 00:22:44,460 was the flying saucer label used in the 439 00:22:48,710 --> 00:22:47,159 afternoon break the staff talked amongst 440 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:48,720 themselves but most comments were 441 00:22:53,690 --> 00:22:51,570 hearsay students had asked Andrew 442 00:22:56,869 --> 00:22:53,700 Greenwood the science teacher to have a 443 00:23:00,049 --> 00:22:56,879 look from the oval I'm not sure if he 444 00:23:03,549 --> 00:23:00,059 actually saw anything but he was the one 445 00:23:06,950 --> 00:23:03,559 interviewed on the evening TV news 446 00:23:10,999 --> 00:23:06,960 importantly at least to me my third 447 00:23:13,039 --> 00:23:11,009 question was what discussions did you 448 00:23:16,940 --> 00:23:13,049 have with other staff members 449 00:23:18,950 --> 00:23:16,950 this is Hazel's reply until we saw the 450 00:23:20,779 --> 00:23:18,960 TV news coverage Roger 451 00:23:22,460 --> 00:23:20,789 Adams and Vivian Clarke two other 452 00:23:25,190 --> 00:23:22,470 English teachers have agreed with my 453 00:23:27,940 --> 00:23:25,200 view dismissed the hype as something 454 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:27,950 comparable to a windy day escalation of 455 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:32,369 student wind up since 1966 I've had 456 00:23:38,599 --> 00:23:36,210 several conversations with staff some 457 00:23:41,089 --> 00:23:38,609 support the view it was a UFO or maybe a 458 00:23:44,239 --> 00:23:41,099 military experimental flying object off 459 00:23:47,529 --> 00:23:44,249 course a few claimed to have seen suits 460 00:23:50,869 --> 00:23:47,539 in the school after hours we didn't 461 00:23:53,899 --> 00:23:50,879 neither did we hear any American accents 462 00:23:56,690 --> 00:23:53,909 of supposed CIA FBI undercover agents 463 00:23:59,960 --> 00:23:56,700 the location is what I have the most 464 00:24:02,060 --> 00:23:59,970 comms about where the current UFO 465 00:24:04,519 --> 00:24:02,070 playground is established is where it 466 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:04,529 was supposed to have occurred that is a 467 00:24:10,670 --> 00:24:08,970 long way back from the school of the 468 00:24:12,740 --> 00:24:10,680 secondary school 469 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:12,750 students could not have got there and 470 00:24:18,220 --> 00:24:15,930 back at lunchtime as they were supposed 471 00:24:21,530 --> 00:24:18,230 to be within the school playgrounds the 472 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:21,540 fourth question I asked was what 473 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:23,250 discussions did you have with the 474 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:27,290 students in her reply hazel stated 475 00:24:33,260 --> 00:24:30,570 within the school students discuss their 476 00:24:34,940 --> 00:24:33,270 part in the afternoon but as the media 477 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:34,950 stories grew there was a kind of 478 00:24:39,590 --> 00:24:37,770 repressed memory exercise where some 479 00:24:42,530 --> 00:24:39,600 began to remember things they hadn't 480 00:24:45,530 --> 00:24:42,540 mentioned earlier one student did leave 481 00:24:47,690 --> 00:24:45,540 a month or so after this and that fact 482 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:47,700 was picked up by one correspondent who 483 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:52,170 claimed she vanished not so genuine 484 00:24:57,050 --> 00:24:53,850 transferred to another school which 485 00:24:58,910 --> 00:24:57,060 happened a lot with a transitory migrant 486 00:25:02,450 --> 00:24:58,920 camp community as parents got better 487 00:25:05,360 --> 00:25:02,460 jobs elsewhere we did attempt to discuss 488 00:25:08,690 --> 00:25:05,370 in class the need for evidence before 489 00:25:11,180 --> 00:25:08,700 you claim something following that I 490 00:25:14,030 --> 00:25:11,190 wanted to make sure any contact with 491 00:25:16,430 --> 00:25:14,040 principal Samuel E was covered so the 492 00:25:19,100 --> 00:25:16,440 fifth question I posed was did you have 493 00:25:20,950 --> 00:25:19,110 any discussions with the principal about 494 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:20,960 the events of that day 495 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:24,170 Hazel's reply was mr. Sam Baldy 496 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:27,210 attempted to dampen down discussion and 497 00:25:32,360 --> 00:25:29,570 wanted us to return to normal classes 498 00:25:34,610 --> 00:25:32,370 whenever the local media picked up on 499 00:25:37,100 --> 00:25:34,620 the story there'd be a resurgence of 500 00:25:40,310 --> 00:25:37,110 interest within the school and the local 501 00:25:43,730 --> 00:25:40,320 Clayton Westall community the enthusiasm 502 00:25:45,590 --> 00:25:43,740 of the documentary maker Chanel who was 503 00:25:47,870 --> 00:25:45,600 always polite in his exchanges kept 504 00:25:51,020 --> 00:25:47,880 interest in the subject he was not 505 00:25:54,370 --> 00:25:51,030 present at the supposed UFO incident but 506 00:25:57,590 --> 00:25:54,380 his wife / girlfriend lived in the area 507 00:25:59,870 --> 00:25:57,600 my sixth question which aimed at 508 00:26:02,840 --> 00:25:59,880 potentially finding earlier interview 509 00:26:04,850 --> 00:26:02,850 accounts to study was what interviews 510 00:26:06,070 --> 00:26:04,860 have you done over the years with anyone 511 00:26:10,550 --> 00:26:06,080 about the incident 512 00:26:14,120 --> 00:26:10,560 hazel replied to the writer yes the dan 513 00:26:16,190 --> 00:26:14,130 McGann journal I've had various 514 00:26:18,650 --> 00:26:16,200 researchers contact me across the years 515 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:18,660 but when I claimed it probably wasn't a 516 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:22,770 UFO my comets tend to be cut the 517 00:26:27,019 --> 00:26:24,330 documentary maker 518 00:26:30,710 --> 00:26:27,029 the most persistent interviewer but the 519 00:26:34,009 --> 00:26:30,720 eventual documentary was comet uncommon 520 00:26:37,159 --> 00:26:34,019 rather than facts with that I queried 521 00:26:38,299 --> 00:26:37,169 which documentary maker - witch hazel 522 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:38,309 gave a weblink 523 00:26:44,419 --> 00:26:42,210 and a brief reply the web link she gave 524 00:26:47,330 --> 00:26:44,429 is listed in her statement was simply 525 00:26:49,820 --> 00:26:47,340 doc you make earth shake uestion mark 526 00:26:52,340 --> 00:26:49,830 sorry forgotten his surname very 527 00:26:55,430 --> 00:26:52,350 charming and polite man Canberra based 528 00:26:59,480 --> 00:26:55,440 now my seventh question was what you 529 00:27:01,370 --> 00:26:59,490 think happened that day possibly there 530 00:27:04,070 --> 00:27:01,380 was some kind of flying object used and 531 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:04,080 viewed by a few people I seriously doubt 532 00:27:09,710 --> 00:27:06,570 it was a UFO the most interesting story 533 00:27:10,850 --> 00:27:09,720 is why a school and broader community 534 00:27:13,490 --> 00:27:10,860 want to believe it 535 00:27:16,519 --> 00:27:13,500 in the speed at which a story can 536 00:27:18,740 --> 00:27:16,529 escalate much of the ancillary comment 537 00:27:22,879 --> 00:27:18,750 on social media about what might happen 538 00:27:25,460 --> 00:27:22,889 was rarely substantiated by facts it was 539 00:27:27,830 --> 00:27:25,470 on a slow news afternoon that a junior 540 00:27:30,289 --> 00:27:27,840 secondary student rang the TV newsroom 541 00:27:33,139 --> 00:27:30,299 and then everybody wanted to be a part 542 00:27:35,029 --> 00:27:33,149 of it the real story is the subsequent 543 00:27:38,659 --> 00:27:35,039 sense of community created by this 544 00:27:42,139 --> 00:27:38,669 fiction I'm in favor of scientific 545 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:42,149 research imposing hypothesis which then 546 00:27:47,330 --> 00:27:44,970 need to be proved and of thinking 547 00:27:50,629 --> 00:27:47,340 outside conventional frameworks but I 548 00:27:53,810 --> 00:27:50,639 need proof evidence not just opinion and 549 00:27:57,379 --> 00:27:53,820 frankly the Westall UFO sighting being 550 00:28:00,820 --> 00:27:57,389 listed as fact worries me makes me 551 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:00,830 wonder about some other quote facts 552 00:28:05,750 --> 00:28:03,570 moving away from the incident itself the 553 00:28:09,230 --> 00:28:05,760 eighth question was have you any notes 554 00:28:12,710 --> 00:28:09,240 and Diaries or a documentation from 1966 555 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:12,720 about the incident hazal replied I gave 556 00:28:16,850 --> 00:28:15,210 it a passing mention in my memoir not 557 00:28:20,360 --> 00:28:16,860 just a piece of cake as the name of the 558 00:28:22,430 --> 00:28:20,370 book being an author frankly I didn't 559 00:28:25,159 --> 00:28:22,440 take notes in 1966 because I didn't 560 00:28:27,019 --> 00:28:25,169 think it was that significant I wrapped 561 00:28:29,690 --> 00:28:27,029 up the series of inquiries with a ninth 562 00:28:34,430 --> 00:28:29,700 question do you care if I publish any of 563 00:28:36,950 --> 00:28:34,440 this one day hazel replied you're 564 00:28:37,820 --> 00:28:36,960 welcome to publish happy for you to use 565 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:37,830 my name 566 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:40,410 can't find many photos from that era but 567 00:28:47,020 --> 00:28:43,290 will email you the one I have thus a 568 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:47,030 reasonably quantity of information to 569 00:28:50,660 --> 00:28:48,570 deliberate over 570 00:28:52,970 --> 00:28:50,670 I thought wise to clarify some of 571 00:28:56,750 --> 00:28:52,980 Hazel's answers to a more loosely 572 00:28:59,120 --> 00:28:56,760 arranged format and came back to state 573 00:29:00,950 --> 00:28:59,130 to her hi hazel I've read through your 574 00:29:03,740 --> 00:29:00,960 answers and these will be detailed 575 00:29:06,310 --> 00:29:03,750 enough for me to present in some sort of 576 00:29:08,810 --> 00:29:06,320 report I have a few follow-up questions 577 00:29:10,820 --> 00:29:08,820 one that springs to mind is this the 578 00:29:14,060 --> 00:29:10,830 girl who bring the TV station how would 579 00:29:17,020 --> 00:29:14,070 this be done from inside or outside a 580 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:17,030 school surely she didn't have permission 581 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:19,170 hazel said no I think she probably 582 00:29:27,890 --> 00:29:22,170 wagged it to ring outside early in the 583 00:29:30,500 --> 00:29:27,900 afternoon fascinating UFO story well I 584 00:29:33,230 --> 00:29:30,510 want to thank you all for listening to 585 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:33,240 UFO headline news with me Heidi Hollis 586 00:29:39,860 --> 00:29:35,970 be sure to check out UFO headline news 587 00:29:42,470 --> 00:29:39,870 com daily and also tune in to my other 588 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:42,480 weekly show the Outlander which is on 589 00:29:48,980 --> 00:29:45,570 Fridays 9:00 p.m. Eastern a p.m. central 590 00:29:52,700 --> 00:29:48,990 and catch my paranormal comic called the 591 00:29:56,690 --> 00:29:52,710 Outlanders direct links can be found by 592 00:29:59,710 --> 00:29:56,700 my website Heidi Hollis calm or just 593 00:30:02,630 --> 00:29:59,720 come to Inception Radio Network 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